Bidding The Purser Position

Although the BidPlus program does not yet have a specific Purser bidding feature, we are happy to announce that the BidPlus program is already designed to provide you with several methods by which to select and bid the Purser position. The concepts and methods can be a bit tricky even without using a computer. So please take your time and understand how the BidPlus program can make things easier for you. Many of you are probably already using some of these methods in your regular bidding.

1) Configure Feature Method
     a) Configure Notes 1
     b) Configure Notes 2
2) Using Equipment as Bidding Criteria
3) Position Bidding
4) Additional Notes

It is highly suggested that you familiarize yourself with some of the basic bidding features of this program prior to studying this section, namely Configure, Criteria Selection, Understanding Banks, & Position Bidding.

Configure Feature (top)

Begin by clicking on the Tools button at the bottom.

 

The screen that you are presented with shows you all the possible F/A staffing that the program will include in the search. By default, everything should be checked including the "No Qualification" check box on the top left. The languages should only be checked if you are language qualified.

 

The first thing you can do is to de-select everything except the 5 or 6 position lines or higher, depending on which of these are Purser lines in your particular domicile.

 

Make sure that the 'No Qualification box stays checked!! In other words, take the check out of the 2, 3, and possibly the 4 position boxes, as well as XSC lines at the bottom, as these are not Purser position lines in most cases. That way, the only lines that will be included in your search are wide bodies (and 757's that fly International, like HNL). Then when you click OK, the box will close, and you will see that the words 'Restricted Search' displayed in red.

 

This is your indication that you have restricted your search. The only thing the program is going to look for is what you have checked.

The second thing to note is that, although rare, some domiciles contain XSC 'F' position lines. If you want to look for only the XSC 'F' positions, then you should de-select everything else (except the No Qualification check box). When you click OK, the box will close, and you will see that the 'Restricted Search' is displayed. This again is your indication that you have restricted your search. The only thing the program is going to look for is what you have checked. If the XSC 'F' position is what you have checked   **and those lines are part of your bid package**   then that is what will be shown to you when you search. You can still apply your other criteria as normal (days off, check in times, etc. ) but the only thing that will be included in your search are the 'F' position XSC lines.

**Configure Note 1** (top)

XSC lines, whether they are 'F' or 'E' or 'Y', are different then position bidding 'F' or 'E' or 'Y'.  XSC lines are pre-determined 1 or 2 position lines, and as such, cannot be position bid. Their position is pre-determined by their line number according to the matrix in the cover pages. BidPlus automatically indicates their position in each LOF display. Also, not all domiciles have XSC 'F' (Purser) positions. The Purser position at most domiciles will need to be bid by position bidding. So, unless your domicile has specific XSC 'F' position lines, **DO NOT** use the Configure feature XSC lines to try and bid the Purser position. Details on Position bidding can be found by clicking here.

**Configure Note 2 ** (top)

Be sure to put everything back to normal in the Configure feature when you are done. This feature will remain exactly as you have left it until you change it again. This goes for future bid packages as well!!

Using The Equipment Criteria (top)

The last thing that you can do is to search for the lines that only have any wide body aircraft, or conversely, lines that have no (or no more then a small percentage of) narrow body aircraft. Only this time use the criteria statements on the Criteria Selection screen. (This will be a specific criteria in a future version). But until then, you will have to do separate statements for each equipment. 

You should make your criteria statement say:

"I want [any (or All)] of my line to have [any 747]"  ...or DC10s... or  777....etc.

When you are searching for specific wide body equipment, then each equipment request should have its own Bank. This will help to prevent you from creating a combination of criteria that does not exist, and thus prevents the results of your search from being zero. For example, if you input the requests "[Any] of my line to have [DC-10s]" and "[Any] of my line to have [777s]" both in the same Bank, then the result will probably be zero as there are not many lines that contain both 777s and DC-10s in the same line. Remember, the LOF must match your criteria combination EXACTLY.

Instead, for example, you would need to put "[Any] of my line to have [DC-10s]" in the first Bank, and then put "[Any] of my line to have [777s]" in the second Bank.

You can also combine this with any other criteria you like. For each successive Bank, you can just click Recall button at the bottom so that you don't have to keep re-entering your criteria. Then just change the equipment statement for each successive Bank, and then search again.

A more practical way to go would be to say:

"I want [None (or no more then 10% or 20%)] of my line to have [any 737's]  ...or 727 ...or A320...etc.

Using the second example with the "None" statement might be more practical (even though the Purser position can be flown and paid on narrow bodies as long as there is a wide body somewhere else in the line) because you can create a "None" statement for each narrow body aircraft in the same Bank without worrying about the conflicts mentioned in the previous example. That way, you won't have to specify specific wide body equipment that you DO want as they will now automatically be included in your search by default. By using the “None” statements, the narrow bodies have now all been eliminated from the search, so you no longer need to concern your self with them showing up in your results. You may add any other additional criteria you like.

Position Bidding (top)
(Topic Details)

Once you have all of your selections complete, you can then apply your position bidding with the 'F' position first, and then whatever other positions that you might want to bid. To use the position bidding feature, make sure that you are on the Review and Edit screen first. Then click on the F/Y button in the button bar to open the Position Bidding feature. 

 

If you look in the Position bidding dialog box...

 

...you will see two choices right below the 8 position boxes. The choices are:

Group by Line Number
Group by Position

Currently, by default, we have Group by line number selected. The program will automatically duplicate each line number for each position that you add in those boxes. (You cannot position buddy bid at this time.) So, for example, if you are bidding line numbers 10, 20, & 30, and you apply positions F, B, C, & #  (the # sign indicating a line number bid with no position attached), then...

Grouped by line number, they look like this:

10F  10B  10C  10   20F  20B  20C  20   30F  30B  30C 30, etc.

However, if you choose group by position, then they will look like this:

10F  20F  30F  10B   20B  30B  10C  20C  30C 10  20  30, etc.

***Additional Notes*** (top)

Domestic qualified Purser positions are in any line containing ANY wide-body segments. Therefore, it is entirely possible that a Purser line will have a narrow-body trip or leg thrown in, probably only at the beginning or end of the scheduled month. Many times, there are lines in the bid packets that are a collection of orphan trips from the preceeding group of trips.

With this in mind, selecting "I want my line to have NO (737, 727, A320...) flying" will preclude these purser lines (which pay qual Purser pay for all segments, including the narrow-body, because of line
guarantee). Better might be: "I want no more than 90% (or 50%, or 10%) of my line to have (737, 727, etc.), allowing for some, or at least one, wide-body trips (but, unfortunately, also allowing for just another type of narrow-body in each statement).

Also, though rare, SFO has had in the past few years 3, 4, and 5 pos lines that included the Purser on at least one wide-body segment. These lines were predominantly narrow-body (incl. 757) lines, that were also base crew for a few D10 and 777 legs augmented with XSC's and other-domicile
narrow-body crews. Some of these lines would be precluded by some of the suggested "Configuration" settings above.

Rumor: Currently, a qual Pursers bidding "RLF" may be forced into an unbid, but unfilled relief Purser position line, just as s/he can be assigned an unbid regular Purser line at the end of the bid award process.

Problem: all relief positions are open anyway, and a Purser could be forced out of a relief bid award, into this open relief Purser line, only to be bumped after all in briefing.

Consequence: AFA is looking at either guaranteeing relief Purser pay, closing the relief Purser position, or not allowing Pursers to be forced into these positions like we can be forced into
regular Purser positions, all of which effect Purser bidding methods using BidPlus.